Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by thebeatles67, May 26, 2009. 9. I also think that if families work hard and push their kids to work hard to achieve the American dream that is a good thing. What about vice versa? Their one release, Here, There and Back, met with considerable fan approval, but little support from MCA Records which dropped the band shortly after the album's release. but the fact that she veered into labeling and name calling seemed gratuitous. She has implemented VERY UNFAIR policies against Asians due to her racismand turns around and calls racism on others. I find her Trump condemnation strangely tone-deaf. So youre telling me all the other elected officials who showed up at the press conference denouncing the death threats were duped because there werent really any death threats made against Collins and Lopez? Thats the go-to solution with every mistake Youre fired! Sound familiar? Have you read Malcolm Xs speech? She is empowering and encouraging violent hate. So, the uniformity here is not surprising. In essence she RESIGNED when her anti-trans policies came to light. You live in your generational wealth bubble while putting minorities against each other. Berkeley. Of course not. dont call me doctor, unless you are a patient who is a baby, toddler or adolescent. And this is where things went off the rails. Who makes the plaid blue coat Jesse stone wears in Sea Change? She is basically implying an Asian American who owns a nice home and has a high income and net worth is still, because of a hidden white supremacist subculture no one discusses, beneath a white child in a rural setting with a single mother on fentanyl, meth or heroin, in public housing, on 3 generations of welfare, without a father, getting poor grades and facing a life of poverty. Please, do just that. This is outright using the word in its original negative, perjorative sense to insult another race. Im told the idea of killing me was broached at an SFSOS meeting. The various public board meetings where Allison Colins has continued to single out Asians by citing time, over and over again, that there are too many Asians at Lowell and calling everyone, including Asians, on the meeting who opposed removing merit admissions racist. There are a bunch of them so feel free to dig through those meetings here: https://www.sfusd.edu/about-sfusd/board-education/board-education-meetings/2021-board-education-meeting-documents-archive. She doesnt encourage black kids to study long hours. For students who are high performing, there is an absolute benefit to being in classes with other high performing students, where the teachers do not need to stop and slow down to bring along the other students who are not at the same level. Youre wasting your breath, Im afraid. Sorry, you simply do not understand these terms as they are used by people who think about and discuss race as a living,. Allison Collins is confirming the very worst stereotypes about black people- that they will drag down anyone who does well in school with the acting white label. Where is the logic in that? Collins is anti Asian as seen through her tweets and her actions. This is exactly backwards: the students are what make the schools elite!). Its antiracism to note if blacks studies as much as even low income Asians, racial inequality would end quickly. Not sure why when there is a common enemy in white supremacy people let themselves get played . Now its on to anti-Asian sentiment, ignoring the facts that Asian students on average put the most hours into study. Asian Americans study over twice as much as whites in California and thus earn more money and are more than 3x as likely to make a UC. If America is unfair and racist, the goal is to destroy it and start over. She took a few incidences and labels and entire race as that way. Allen's mother, Eva remembers her son as full of energy and enthusiasm -- even before Allen could walk he moved constantly. Seriously, just for making the statement bc of the strong implication against the communities that do not succeed that we dont feel these are important in our culture. People in this country tend to focus on those from East Asia. We all got played here, one tells me. Theres nothing meaningful about Lowell. Do not assume that all these families if students are lucky enough to have families are leveraging privilege to just get a private school education on taxpayer dollars. Utter nonsense. Parents have to make enough money or make enough sacrifices to provide a stable environment for learning. And studying hard to get ahead in society is not white supremacist thinking. Disaster comes by way of the mouth Chairman Mao.those are words to live by lol. (If anything it will increase it, as Willy said above. Again, colloquial speech as it were. Shes unapologetic and she probably doesnt want another chance. Perhaps Ms. Collins should ask the Asian American community before she speaks on our behalf. THIS IS RACIST coming from Chinese and the Chinese American Alliance. We need to focus on habits, not accusing others of racism. No amount of nuance can excuse calling another race house n*****s. Collins, daughter of musician Phil Collins and actress Jill Tavelman, wore a stunning high neck, long-sleeved lace gown. Jim, she was not referencing Malcolm X. Gold and platinum albums followed a string of hit songs like 'Sweet Home Alabama', 'Saturday Night Special', 'Gimme Back My Bullets', 'What's Your Name? Having someone on a school board telling her charges (the students) that hard work (merit) has no place in San Francisco is completely opposite of what you want educators to say. Together with singer Ronnie VanZant and guitarist Gary Rossington, Allen Collins formed the nucleus of Lynyrd Skynyrd in 1964 by learning what they could from each other and listening to the radio. Thanks again, kind sirs! Your argument is irrelevant mainly. Also- the opposition to renaming schools is not nobody is perfect. What are Allen Collins childrens name and ages? Should Asian Americans be proud of their communities, their culture, their hard work and their accomplishments in this country? telling me to read more books or stop commenting. Affiliate programs and My mom was a poor Chinese immigrant and my dad was was a poor working class White kid. I think were good here. My comment never claimed they werent, nor that they didnt. Do you need to re-take the Diversity and Respect class? She is asking us to police our language while using her ethnic background as excuse to hurt others. Democrats are pro Capitalistic and want to pass the buck to working class whites. Collins is completely one-sided in her view of anti-Blackness among Asians. The plane crashed in the woods next to the Mississippi River while attempting an emergency landing because they ran out of fuel. Eliminating merit or performance based admissions means that the schools do not want the kids to perform! We have 10 people who want to live in housing that would go for 3000 a month on the free market, so we should say, we dont require money, but you have to be willing to sacrifice, assimilate, attend tutoring and do everything you can to break the cycle of poverty or someone else can live in your highly desirable public housing. He never left. The school district and Board of Education are presently staving off a lawsuit filed by the City Attorney regarding those sclerotic reopening plans. The American work ethic postulates that if one works hard enough, one can achieve success. It will require quite a bit of humility. are yall dumbyou want to be oppressed so bad.dude this black women is literally telling you that you are over represented in SF schools asshole. Everyone can easily be for funding parks and playgrounds and kiddies and sea walls. Is character education taught in todays schools or emphasized in our country? beauty in diversity, just learn to coexist. There were drugs, infighting, literal fights, and the plane crash that ended the band and took the lives of two of Lynyrd Skynyrd's members. Thats exactly what the racist Allison Collins did. Americans are pretty deliberately clueless about Black History especially militant Black leaders like Malcolm X. Being a house n****r is still being a n****r. Youre still considered the help., Jenny Lam, the only Chinese American school board member in San Franciscos heavily Asian school district, told me she felt the tweets played into generalizations that for a group of people, Asian Americans, if you want to get ahead, youre supporting white supremacy., Norman Yee, a former president of both the Board of Supervisors and Board of Education, felt that Collins call-out of Asians for not being vocal played into longstanding stereotypes of Asians as docile and passive. Carter called an era in his presidency as a great malaise. Lowell gave a reward for hard work. Too many as opposed to what?! She wont do this because she is extremely narrow minded and hateful. Maybe no wifi at home? Absent some feel-good bond measures, its hard to recall a municipal shield wall quite this tight. The accomplished AAPI is a doctor. But especially a school administrator. Hard working vs lazy. This word describes the position with which Asian-Americans reside in the American racial hierarchy and the direction where loyalties are placed. After all, thats something Malcolm X wanted or more so, the complete separation of blacks from whites and basically the rest of Americans. Nope. Has Zhou been forced to resign from any city position or banned from any future political runnings, I think not. The goal of these people like Collins and Lopez is to destroy what America stands for. Alison Collins did not return our calls or texts. I am sure Lowell students are very bright and work very hard. Look, Bozo, Im not saying you have to agree with or like the field. They approached and convinced Collins to join them. Its a number of assumptions and expectations that people have towards Asians. That said, I still cannot wrap my head around the belief of removing the merit system or teaching that wanting to work hard and persevere is succumbing to a White Supremacy belief and condemning entire communities for it. Asian Americans were indeed on Trumps list. The words that other people say mean whatever I want them to mean, and I am entitled to just make up my own silly, context-free interpretation of their words anytime I want without fear of criticism. Bias & racism are still a problem in our country. Collins was driven further into devastation and substance abuse. Is it OK if I send out a tweet asking for stories about Black students beating up other students? Do you understand how racist your assumption is? There was the polarizing decision to paint over murals at George Washington High School depicting our founding father as the slave-owner and Indian-fighter he was. And that means having a basic understanding of the terms used by CRT so you can have an intelligent discussion about them, not bloviating away because you cant be bothered to absorb the actual perspectives of the people whose texts youre angrily responding to. mb s comments only reflect his/her ignorance, arrogance and stupidity. You people in San Francisco deserve each other. They had other accomplishments as well, like convincing millions that they longed for their homeland of Alabama, whether or not they'd ever been to the state. I personally would prefer a line of teaching that still teaches the inequities and bias, but builds ppl up to unite not marginalize, but I digress. When I saw the Google sheet with Wikipedia sources and not much explanation, I was horrified. Isnt that the point? Black brown yellow people are getting played against each other get it together people! Many of my Asian-American friends and family are worried about going out, even after COVID. Ronnie Van Zant, Bob Burns, and Gary Rossington decided to form a band in 1964. When did ill-farted become a euphamism for racist? Is she Asian? Times were very difficult since Allen's musical career barely brought in enough to support the young family. Its hard to imagine any elected official or city leader expending political capital and jumping in front of a bullet in an attempt to nuance this especially when Collins has been part of a Board of Education that has embarrassed the city and enraged many of San Franciscos highest-propensity voters. 5. Masterful. But at the same time, the house negro status is a precarious one subject to the masters whims. Again, I have gone to SFUSD schools growing up in SF, my kids were also enrolled in under-privileged area schools in SF where more than 75% of children are under privileged. She punished thousands of people at Lowell for this. She wants students to be equally less successful. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. According to Petersen, if these problem minorities would just shut and stop protesting and work hard, theyd be successful like them orientals. She needs to resign. So white students are 3X overrepresented at SOTA. Ask these families if they would rather, in this situation, if they had the choice, A. have Lowell become a lottery school just as their child enters 7th or 8th grade, ruining their plans or B. have a criminal push them out of their vehicle or use a weapon and steal their brand new car from them, even assuming they had no insurance. Bye, bye Allison. addendum to my earlier post: I share many of the sentiments expressed here on all sides, but it got pretty ugly at times. The Rossington-Collins Band debuted in June 1980 with the Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere album. Lam says Collins was unapologetic and that voices were raised.. If an Asian person internalizes the model minority stereotypes, they will have proven to the real whites in charge they are worthy. The thinking is backasswards. From his earliest days Allen loved cars -- especially race cars -- and his favorite summer activity was going to Jacksonville Raceway every Saturday night to watch Leroy Yarborough race. I can understand that there are definitely challenging problems in my community that need to be addressed and speaking for myself I could see how disadvantaged I was merely bc my family and community did not know better bc their focus was on survival by the day having grown up poor themselves and although it was said go to school nobody in my community knew how to successfully enter a profession or, frankly, college. Totally agree with Steve. The wedding is kind of a light page in the dark book of Collins's life. If you are white, the question you ask is what was I before I was white? Whiteness is a faulty ideology that should be dismantled. Does Ms. Collins ouster send a message ( I doubt it as weve been firing people over this for decades and it still happens)? It is the fairest and purest form of meritocracy there is. What is happening is Asian HR personnel are filtering out and removing the applicants that are of color. We are to be judged on the content of our character. Why is it that racism coming from the left complicated while racism from the right is clear as day? I will try harder in the future. Sort of like the Lowell entrance exam. Mission Local produces enterprise-reporting on SFs most critical issues: police reform, corruption, public health, housing and homelessness. I know theres a lot of passion here but we defeat the whole purpose of this dialogue by going off on each other, because that will create deeper division and this will continue to happen. In 1963, Allen lived in Jacksonville's Cedar Hills area when an older friend received a guitar for his birthday. Spend 5 hours meeting with Geoffrey Canada and learning why charter schools, which dont support the union, get great results for black kids thriving in school and exiting poverty. On January 23, 1990, Collins succumbed to chronic pneumonia and was interred in Jacksonville, Florida, beside his wife. Have folks forgotten the racist and stereotypical mural Ellen Lee Zhou put up in SF of Mayor London Breed. second daughter is Allison who was born in 1973 or 1974. Gary Rossington and Allen Collins had performed at a few special jams, and slowly began planning a new band. Do you think people went-oh theyre black(NEXT) like that? 4. And those who oppose renaming schools have made it a core tenet of their defensive position that no one is perfect, no historical subject is without fault. 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