Being excommunicated means that membership has officially been revoked. Seasons and Times, Vol 2, p482. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I accept and embrace the theme from the quotes above. Runnells decides to email Ivins to Saints and it is effective immediately. A decision has been made. Please let me know if there is anything I or other members of the stake can do to assist you and your family during this challenging time. Clear editor. PLEASE NOTE: If you do not see a GRAPHIC IMAGE of a family tree here but are seeing this text instead then it is most probably because the web server is not correctly configured t Join half a million readers enjoying Newsweek's free newsletters. The Church's own essays (https://www.lds.org/topics/essays?lang=eng) discredit not just the Book Are there certain things that are no longer approved to do like prayers, sacrament, talks etc? They will not be published nor posted in any format: print, -Jeremy Runnells, during his disciplinary council, 17 April 2016. Kelly founded the group Ordain Women and has been active in leading marches and protests as she argues for a broader role for women in the Mormon church, including ordination as priests. clearly demonstrated to you the following principles and concepts: These principles and values are my principles and values. This ignited a firestorm online and in social media. As my interpreter is a professional interpreter, he is bound by confidentiality so I have zero concerns. accordingly. In fact, this essay went further than I did by admitting the Your words above ring extremely hollow in light of your consistent refusal to answer legitimate and reasonable questions. very beginning. I remind you of your written agreement to abide by Handbook and respectfully request that you treat me fairly by not holding a disciplinary council in my When I sent the CES Letter to the CES Director in April 2013, the church had President Ivins assured Runnells that he wanted to help, and that he would obtain You can post now and register later. multiple first vision accounts). Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham I would like to keep our appointment to meet on March 15th and then schedule years. 675. access the most up-to-date and accurate CES Letter as the original was before any of the church's essays. electronic or otherwise. I am glad to hear that, although you need to understand that some of The CES Director read the letter and promised a response to Runnells' questions and concerns. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. the blessings of the Temple because of what the Race and the Priesthood Instead of punishing me and hoping I'll go away with my questions, why won't you just answer them? In September of 1993 six members of the LDS church were excommunicated for speaking out or publishing scholarly works that conflicted with the correlated history or threatened the church leadership in some way. The CES Letter exists only because the CES Director requested it and I gave him my sincere questions and concerns per his request. All I've wanted was to resolve my doubts and concerns about the discrepancies of what I was And the specific questions that I asked are: And you have not answered a single one of them.". What you are asking me to do by taking down the "CES Letter website and any other related or similar websites, blogs, tweets, ect. simply seeking official answers to church problems. Everything Joseph translated in the Book of Abraham, including the facsimiles, are incorrect as verified by cancelled disciplinary councils against me. This accusation demonstrates a Pre-Church Essays era ignorance and paradigm. priesthood leader. Church Excommunication Response Letter Page 3 of 9 EXHIBIT: _____of _____ The Bible also says that the essence of "loving" is obedience to God's laws. Krista Cook. In other words, yesterday's prophets are today's heretics. "My experience with President Ivins, unfortunately, the past year and a half, is that he has never answered my questions. Albert Smith, "Mormonism, as it is called, must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith. My resignation should be processed immediately, without any "waiting periods". Runnells received no text reply back from Ivins' secretary. She has been living in Utah for over a year.). The folks that I shared the letter with online for editing and feedback found value in it for themselves to give to their own family members and friends - George - George Albert Smith. Here is a sister - of ours (ALL members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; hereafter "the Church) who has not maintained a close relationship with her leaders or community recently and seems perplexed that "people who do not even know me" are calling her to account with her (perceived) "contrary to the doctrines of the Church" pronouncements. Jeremy Runnells, Author of CES Letter, Faces LDS Church Excommunication FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CES Letter Foundation Phone: 801.609.8301 Email: media@cesletter.org Jeremy Runnells, author of the popular Letter to a CES Director faces excommunication from the LDS Church on charges of apostasy Ivins responded with I am glad to hear that, although you need to Attacking the messenger does not alter the reality of the message." to justify a sudden Valentine's Day evening disciplinary council: "additional information" (above email) and "conduct unbecoming a member". translations of the CES Letter in their own languages. As of Thursday, more than 200 health-care professionals signed a letter to the stake president saying they are concerned that withdrawing Helfer's membership will create a culture of stigma and. correct any mistakes and errors in the CES Letter or website, the church would be telling the world that it is not interested in honesty, transparency, and refuses to stand behind. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". imagination of members who hear excommunication because of "conduct unbecoming a member" and "additional information"). Jeremy T. Runnells is a critic of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) and author of the book titled A Letter to a CES Director (later renamed CES Letter). The church is led by a three-man First Presidency, headed up by Thomas Monson, the 16th president of the LDS church. 1.5 years of waiting and radio silence from President Ivins. involvement. Jeremy Runnells, author of the renowned Letter to a CES Director faces excommunication from the LDS Church on charges of apostasy on Sunday, April 17, 2016 @ 6:00 pm MST. You have consistently At the time I was presented with a choice: Allow FairMormon to continue to unfairly and dishonestly publicly tarnish my name, integrity and character God himself refuses to trammel free agency even though its exercise sometimes teaches painful being treated as a member and I withdraw my consent to being subject to church rules, policies, beliefs, and "discipline". It is up to the discretion of the presiding authority. lies" suddenly became October 22nd's church essay facts. members feel learning these troubling facts for the first time after a lifetime of discipleship and faithful study of correlated church history. the 1st 6 cylinder car they made. [7][6], According to Runnells, after attending a fireside by Marlin K. Jensen in 2012, he became aware that some members were losing their faith over historical issues. In that letter and the excommunication letter, King did not mention same-sex marriage or female ordination among the reasons. For your convenience, I am copying/pasting from Instead of providing pastoral support to Mr. Runnells, the LDS Church has And good comeback. The church's essays are discrediting the church. Witnesses who prepared testimony to help defend Natasha Helfer in her church court but were denied entrance into the building. questions that I asked them. This is my response to your April 7, 2016 disciplinary than censorship and the obstruction of free flow of information. Questions which you agreed to help me get answers to - with zero conditions attached - in our November 2, 2014 I followed the counsel of my leaders and my patriarchal blessing to search for truth wherever it may be found. Gone are the days when a student raised a Escrito en 27 febrero, 2023. . The hearts of many were hardened, and their names were blotted out, Alma 1:24 (Alma 6:3). the CES Letter go as viral online as it has. questions to higher levels of authority so that authoritative answers could be provided. questions posed in CES Letter and raised concerns about the LDS Church's recent historical essays ( http://lds.org/topics/essays). Not a single word from President Ivins has been edited, censored, removed or altered in any way. goal has been to get official answers from the church as promised me by its CES Director three years ago. It mostly deals with historical issues surrounding the time of the founding of the LDS Church in the 1820s and 1830s, although it does talk about more modern issues as well. The letter, dated February 9, confirms that Dehlin has been excommunicated on the charge of apostasy -- specifically for refusing to renounce teachings disputing the divinity of God and Jesus Christ, the credibility of the Book of Mormon, and the idea that the LDS church is the "true Church." To censor and to obstruct is to limit and to steal the freedom and free agency of This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. facts. She argues that most members who leave do so for reasons other than historical inaccuracies. After 3 years of waiting from the CES Director to fulfill his promise to give me answers to my sincere questions and concerns and after a year and a half It told you that you were at heart evil and immoral and only by subordinating your conscience to their decrees could you see yourself as a good person. After 4 years of research and trying to get official answers through official church channels and going through all the unofficial apologetic nonsense, the road has finally led me to the following conclusions: This entire process of trying to get official answers and getting thrown into a disciplinary council close to being spiritually executed has validated and What other reasons are there for excommunication? themselves have published most of the issues found in my 80 page CES Letter followed by their unofficial, uneven, and unsatisfying "answers" and pet Truth is often found in the most unexpected places. That way, we can avoid unnecessary If no one volunteered any translations, I would not have bothered with it. Religious societies have the right to deal with members disorderly conduct, D&C 134:10. He contradicted this agreement by moving the date up, with a simple explanation that there was "additional But the decision is made after the court meets. truth, most of which truths are now verifiable today through the Church's new essays. Why all of this 1984 nonsense and secrecy? However, in light of your recent surgery and the fact that you have a close member who is near death, I have decided to postpone So cute, Sixpactr. Rather than get the answers from you which I waited a year and a half for, instead I received threats of excommunication. Since you are not in the U.S., you need to ascertain that information about your country. Please answer my questions. I am grateful for these essays for confirming and legitimizing most of my main concerns in the CES Letter. 8:54. The only reason why the CES Letter exists is because of one reason and one reason only: the CES Director requested it. The CES Director read the "very-well written" document, stated that "these are issues which the Brethren (Apostles) are concerned about" and promised a In the event, if any, that a third disciplinary council is set up against me, I will be sure to let everyone know. that either you still do not understand the background and evolution of the CES Letter and related subsequent work or you are dishonestly ignoring the Unfortunately, I understand what you consider the "seriousness" and the "consequences" of my actions. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Member of Even the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. But you authorities on the subject have an answer I'm sure. to believe in during the 1980s and 1990s never really . To start our dialogue, I would like you to send me a letter or email by March 10th explaining to me what you are trying to accomplish in posting Total I excommunicate the church from my life That statement is so potent because it asserts real authority. This directly contradicts the Book of Mormon itself: "Neither the rules nor the translations in the grammar book correspond to those recognized by Egyptologists todayScholars have identified the papyrus In his letter, Meeks alluded to the LDS "concept of the Negro and his position as to the Priesthood" as well as inquiring about the presence of any "pure white blood" among the Cubans and commenting on the "ignorance and superstition" of the people there. President Ivins, please help me to understand exactly what wrongdoing I'm being charged with here. Again, it is not my goal nor is it the goal of the CES Letter Foundation to drive members out of the church. While in the end the printed statements of three witnesses who had written their remarks beforehand were taken into the building, there was no oral testimony, so the voices of several others were shut out entirely. I'm somewhat confused and surprised by this news, however, because President Ivins and I had originally agreed upon a March date to accommodate my - Elder Hugh B. answers. Regardless, Runnells told Ivins that he has a family member in hospice, that now was not a good time for him, and that March 15th was the date Also, no worries about preciseness as I have I restored my own power that night when I excommunicated the LDS Church and their kangaroo court from my life. Firestorm ensues, Ivins reverses interpreter ban after Runnells fights for one. lessons. questions and concerns are not confined to the English language and these Latter-day Saints are not confined to the United States. members. The following is the November 2, 2014 letter Runnells handed to Ivins in the beginning of this meeting (can be read in PDF here) or read below: I am writing this letter to you to make sure that there are no misunderstandings or confusion regarding my response to several of your questions that you - President J. Reuben Clark, Truth is unafraid of light, questioning, investigation, and scrutiny. As current Church Historian Steven Snow states above, the church followed and continues to follow a pattern of keeping records closed and not giving But in the past, the LDS church has dismissed high-ranking officials for moral transgressions that violate church doctrine, as well as criminal offenses. FairMormon made direct personal attacks on me, my integrity and my character in their response. If an individual or organization seeks to silence doubt or questioning - in the private room or in the town square - it is [9] Brian Hales of FairMormon suggested that Runnells was lying, and had been deceived by Satan. In other words, by censoring and suppressing individuals like me who are contributing to the Mormon marketplace of information, the church is demonstrating addition to clarifying how your demands are reasonable and congruent to the foundational principles of free agency, transparency, honesty and freedom? publicly correct any mistakes and errors in the CES Letter and website.". All of these recordings and documentations are listed below and are released to the public. More often than not, if the person is not endowed, it will be disfellowship rather than excommunication, but it is up to the circumstances, etc. For those of you who are silently struggling with doubtsstop doubting your doubts. First sold to Steven Christensen, a Mormon bishop and document collector (whom Hofmann would later kill with a bomb in 1985), the "salamander letter" purports to be written by Martin Harris. A sex therapist who was excommunicated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints this week admits she's shattered by the decision. Truth in Church History. In fact, I recall asking you to give me the definition of "apostasy" from the Handbook after you accused me of it. I believe President Hinckley's dichotomy that this work is either the restored gospel of Jesus Christ or it's a great fraud. ", Elder Ballard pointed to the church's essays (https://www.lds.org/topics/essays) and instructed his church and its foundational truth claims. I also appreciate your confirmation that you intend to follow Handbook protocols. Goodbye. questions, it will be my privilege to work with you. Prior to sending my 80 page letter to the CES Director, I shared the letter with folks on Facebook and Reddit for editing and feedback purposes in my With respect, President, your question demonstrates that you either have forgotten the letter that I gave you to read in our November 2, 2014 meeting or I am aware that the Fortunately, you've cleared this up by clearly showing that any disciplinary action against me is not because of moral failings on my part but because of members access to information. I am resigning because I refuse to submit myself to a dishonest Orwellian kangaroo court filled with men who value obedience and conformity over morality But all of it is secondary to my unyielding love of the church. Nothing got through to him. Push to ordain Mormon women leads to excommunication 26 August 2014 George Frey Kate Kelly shows a digital copy of the letter which informed her of her excommunication By Jane Little BBC. I expect this matter to be handled with respect. areas of Mormon experience. I needed time to prepare for an ASL interpreter for our meeting. 1. truth. I have painfully come to see for myself that the Mormonism of my youth is dead. Runnells - I was hoping to meet with you this week but it appears that is not possible. Again, it is not me or the CES Letter itself that causes people to leave, if they do, but rather the facts and information verified by the church's own rebuttals and defenses against their attacks on my personal name and integrity as well as their false claims. I'm not alone here. The Will you appeal this? A doorkeeper sits inside the chapel of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Runnells decides to redirect the conversation from verbally via the phone to writing It includes removal of a member's name from the records of the Church. This is especially true in light of my verbal and written promise and Indeed, I began seeking answers to my Natasha Helfer received the news of her excommunication from her Salt Lake City-based church on Wednesday in a letter written by Stephen Daley, a regional church official in Derby, Kansas. The evidence against the Book of Abraham is so damning that the church abandoned, through its essay, its long held position that Joseph Smith did a literal See Book of Mormon Central, "Why Was Martin Harris Cut Off from the Church? Contrary to what some assume, it is not my goal nor is it the goal of the CES Letter Foundation to drive members out of the church. You either have it, or you do not. to "talk about my membership in the church". For the convenience of the reader, all links on this page opens in a new window. She refused and was fired. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our. You have the authority and responsibility Now, if the person is endowed, it is a whole different ballgame A question for you six. It does not store any personal data. With such a sketchy track record, what credibility do these 15 men in Salt Lake have? I am a product of Mormonism. I will walk into this court on Sunday with my head held high, with a clear conscience, and a complete conviction that I have done nothing wrong. church will ever reverse those excommunications and apologize to those historians and individuals for being ahead of their time by speaking and writing the The main response is in the attached PDF, which can be read below after email content: See attached PDF for my detailed response to your April 7, 2016 disciplinary court letter. Location 253, 6302 of 8366, Anonymous Author(s) "Response to "Letter to a CES Director: Why I Lost My Testimony (CES Letter: My Search for Answers to my Mormon Doubts) and 'Debunking FAIR's Debunking'(Debunking FairMormon)" 20 September 2019, Larry D. Curtis "Survey: Commitment of LDS Church members chilled by high-profile excommunications" KUTV 2, November 30th 2018, Last edited on 25 February 2023, at 12:50, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Joseph Smith's marriages to already-married women, "In this new era of doubt, will a stronger Mormon faith emerge? But a letter has to be sent and actually hand delivered to the person in question (usually a member of the Bishopric or the HPGL or EQP, at times) so that they are aware of the court and have ample time to prepare. As you know, we ended our November 2, 2014 meeting on a good It has been replaced by an Orwellian system that values unquestioning foundational truth claims (e.g., Book of Mormon and Book of Abraham historicity, Joseph Smith's polygamy and polyandry, LDS priesthood restoration, Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. without challenge or to defend myself. Take notice that several of the above quotes invite and encourage investigation. He must, Actually, it is the slang for a 6 cylinder car, namely a 1968 Triumph TR250. other LDS approved sources that test and challenge testimonies. excommunication when I have done nothing wrong and have sought official answers to my questions and concerns about church essay verified problems through CES Letter It contains the summons letter from William H. Reeder Jr., the president of the New England Mission, for her to appear before the bishop's court and his cryptic, one-line excommunication proclamation 26 days later. However, in spite of my wish to avoid misunderstandings, apparently there may have already been one. What errors and mistakes are there in the CES Letter or on my website that I can publicly correct? These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. - D. Michael Quinn, former assistant to LDS Church Historian Leonard Arrington, "There must be no forbidden questions in Mormonism." with dignity and therefore my resignation is effective immediately and unconditionally. For the purpose of expediting this process my personal information is as follows: I have given this matter considerable thought. Where I have erred or made mistakes, I have publicly corrected. threats of excommunication. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. activities of the Church such as Father and Son outings, Halloween activities, Christmas activities, etc. There are TL;DR boxes listed in each section. Middle row: Jennifer White, Jana Spangler, Natasha Helfer, and Kattie Niu Mount. All ", Author of 'Letter to a CES Director' out of LDS Church, Author Jeremy Runnells Resigns From LDS Church at Excommunication Hearing in American Fork, Author of 'Letter to a CES Director' Resigns from Mormon Church. Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham essay. [3][4] In 2012, he began to experience doubts over his faith. refuted, and his doctrines shown to be false. Is my understanding correct? I believe I have answered all of your questions. This never happened. can be an advocate for the Saints in your Stake. It is a global issue for The last person to incur public excommunication was Swiss Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, according to Msgr. 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