Bill. Then compare that report to the Tripler Psychologist report of a (get this) 5 minute interview. If not mustard gas, then agent orange, the the Gulf syndrome. It may precede a counter-appeal. Did not know his name but I couldnt bring myself to walk by his A/O after this happened. Ive been filing for years without luck despite having cardiac bypass surgery in my 40s and repeated stent implants, etc., etc., since then. Yes some do fabricate stuff. Abit more images would be nice. During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to Although I have to plan most everything I do so as to avoid the things that still bother me..-I started looking up my VN buddies a few years ago,, so far Ive located 10 men that was in my CompanyTalk to them on a regular basis.Bad part is that out of the 10 men 7 of us have major mental and physical problems. Criteria for Eligibility (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. have similar data. No way of accounting for one car accidents either. They were not necessarily looking for a parade, but they were certainly looking for basic human support and help in readjusting to civilian life after this really brutal war.. This is around 9.7 percent of the generation at the time. VA said not related to Agent Orange. Div. Gerry Wiggins, who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969, has already lost friends to the disease. He immediately scheduled further tests, discovering he had two cysts on his bile duct, which had the potential to develop into the cancer, known as cholangiocarcinoma. I remember tet that was no picnic for rear echelon, and being in a chopper,those m60s werent there for show. Still have those dreams that creep in and keeps me awake for the rest of the night THERS IS ONLY ONE KIND OF COMBAT VET..ONEWHOWAS IN COMBAT. I would like to see how much that differs from the civilian population and are they no. It got too overwhelming for me, there were so MANY. According to an estimate by the New York Times, there were 8.4 million Vietnam veterans who were still alive in the year 2000.Of those, 1.1 million had passed away.It was also estimated that there will be a total of 138,000 Vietnam veterans who will pass away every year from this point forward.Editorial note from the administrator of the website: For me, the estimate from two years ago of 610 thousand seems to make the most sense. What amazes me however is that so many of my comrades who served in Vietnam and who suffer from many of the maladies associated with this war would serve again. Thank you. all the best from life. Thanks for your added comment I was in Artillery had my hands on a lot of weapons from the 105, 155, 175mm guns up to the 8inch Howitzer, and all the other weapons in between. Welcome Home John. My room mate was nick named Budda in the 134th. I remember feeling like, what could I do to acknowledge them, and I just gave the peace signal, Wowwk says. tell everyone that was their to go & get a blood test to check for agent orange 1st comes diabetes then prostate cancer thats what a dr told me yesterday. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age. Locality: Detroit, in the state of Michigan. What is the average age of a Vietnam veteran today? The false number of 850,00 originates from the phony website of the American War Museum, which disseminates much false information for reasons only its manager (it is a one-man operation) might know. And yet our government which is one of the best in the world scares the crap out of me. I welcomed 2 Marines back home and they returned the gesture. Statistics show that at least five men killed in Vietnam were sixteen years old, and at least 12 were seventeen years old. Yer pal, Ferraeri Bubba. Pete, be sure to ask your DAV guy if he thinks you have exhausted the Reconsideration process. Twice a week we compile our most fascinating features and deliver them straight to you. Weve used them up we need young ones. See also: How Many Veterans Are Under The Age Of 35? The Department of Veterans Affairs estimates that there are roughly 7.2 million living veterans in the world today. And as more and more wartime atrocities came to light, there was a national implication of guilt and shame placed on Vietnam veterans as participants in and avatars of a brutal, unsuccessful war. I was spat on in Chicago in Lincoln Park in 1969. Fort Hood, Texas another armpit and volunteeredfor a second tour. How many Vietnam vets are dying each day? American soldiers returning home from Vietnam often faced scorn as the war they had fought in became increasingly unpopular. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. Some, like Wowwk, say they had invectives hurled their way; others, like naval officer Ford Cole, remember being spit on. OK I found the source and and researching this more. Most Vietnam Veterans are in their 60s and the average lifespan for a male in USA is 74. at the time i wasnt concerned, though, some of the guys working as fos, who were planning on a military career, were trying to get cibs. The Department of Veterans Affairs this spring commissioned a small pilot study to look into the link between liver flukes ingested through raw or undercooked fish and a rare bile duct cancer. Peter Langenus, today the Commander of VFW Post 653 in New Canaan, Connecticut, commanded Delta Company, 3rd Battalion/7th Infantry, 199th Light Infantry Brigade from 1969-70. Some pilots, career men and members of elite units may have been much older. i got sent to viet nam in the spring of 71 and came back in the spring of 72. my mos was 82c20, surveyor. I hope you all know that if you were in country and have diabetes you are basically automatically qualified for soem degree of compensation their is a presumptive connection as there is with various cancers. This figure far exceeded the expected suicide ratio when balanced by demographics and applied to ONLY those that had served in country. In popular culture, the stereotype of the broken, homeless Vietnam vet began to take hold thanks to films like The Deer Hunter (1978), Coming Home (1978) and First Blood (1982). Of the 2.6 million, between 1-1.6 million (40-60%) either fought in combat, provided close support or were at least fairly regularly exposed to enemy attack. How long will flowers last in wet floral foam? Two of my long-time friends are in-country veterans. Required fields are marked *. He was 15 years old and had been in-country nearly one month. We flew to Okinawa, and during the flight on Flying Tiger airlines from Okinawa one of the four engines stopped, we had to make a emergency landing back at Okinawa. How do you say let's keep in touch professionally? As a mental health nurse in the 1970s who worked the suicide prevention and crisis unit for 4 years, I can tell you there were alot. How did American soldiers treat the Vietnamese? ive always just repied yes, and left it at that. (Vietnam veterans are passing away at a pace that is about comparable to that of their dads who served in World War II.) in only 6-10 years.. *STATISTICS FOR INDIVIDUALS IN UNIFORM AND IN COUNTRY VIETNAM VETERANS: * (Reuters Health) - According to a new study, mortality rates among Vietnam Conflict veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) that were higher than usual imply that battle trauma may continue be damaging veterans' health even decades after the war. dont know about It is a travestywhen I hear about men who gave so much and who are in a sense betrayed by the verygovernment and country they served. The following are some You should document that to the Patient Advocate Office. "Personally, I got what I needed, but if you look at the bigger picture with all these other veterans, they don't know what necessarily to do," he said. Dan Bullock (December 21, 1953 June 7, 1969) was a United States Marine and the youngest U.S. serviceman killed in action during the Vietnam War, dying at the age of 15. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial was dedicated on November 10 . There census number is quite high, but I do not think it is this high.). Compared to the U. S. population, the mortality rates of Veterans are higher at older ages, and the life expectancy of Veterans are estimated to be 0.7-0.9 life-years shorter for males, and to be 1.2-1.3 life-years shorter for female at age 25, 45, and 65. That often precedes an Appeal. If it is any comfort, one of my VVA pals reminds me that VVA only has a total of about 45,000 members nation wide, so it represents and very small part of all who served. The official VA figures for surviving vets of the Viet Nam era show 81% to still be around; the percentage for those who served in Viet Nam is slightly lower, due first to the fact that 58,000 died there. On June 7, 1969, Bullock was killed by small arms fire while on night watch at An Hoa combat base. In response to several comments, Ive never heard of anyone other than a grunt in Vietnam being eligible for the CIB. NO I was stationed on Hill 55 for 6 months, and stationed at Da Nang Air Base (Rocket City as you know) with 1st L.A.A.M. and counseling even before they get out of the service and checks nearly immediately upon discharge in the event of a disability. SFC (Ret.) 390 deaths Considering the kind of information available about the death rate of WWII and Korean War Veterans, publicized information indicates that in the last 14 years Vietnam veterans are dying at the rate of 390 deaths each day. More answers below James Cain One tactic employed was the use of booby traps, and to this day, there are several tunnels and ambushes that have been preserved. thanks rich. In 1970 received a letter from him What seeds should I start indoors in February. Answer (1 of 7): You're in luck. During this Census count, a huge number of Americans falsely claimed to have Its better than nothing. He gets cremated and tossed into the ocean with no fanfare. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? For a decade, as one person was shipped off to fight, another was returning. I came home in 69, my hair fell our,got big pustuals on my back, and skin problems immediately. Were going to demand an official review to a hearings officer. Vietnam Veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. Ant help would be greatly appreciated. It is believed that less than 850,000 of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam are still living today; the age of the youngest American Vietnam veteran is around 60 years old. 65-66 and Fed-67. not too many left, Vietnam Veterans Dying Breed. We can only pray that the current generation of young men and women who are the current targets of a cottage-industry of professionals who thrive on making them all impaired will fare better than we did. The ages of those who served in Vietnam varied anywhere from 55 to 97 years old. Walker another 4 year RA, he left Germany volunteered for Vietnam, assigned to Ages range from 97 to 55 years old (born between 1918 and 1960). Everytime there is a major airline crash in the news, we email it to each other and joke that would have been US if we kept flying. But for the time being, we will just all hang together here and beat the odds. Not everyone boosts about how there home comming was and there are those who would like to leave that chapter behind them. James Ward was one of at least 18 juvenile soldiers killed at Vietnamfive were 16, like him, 11 others were 17, and one was 15 and had forged his birth certificate to join. Originating from New York City, Tom Selleck. This is hard to believe, Food for thought. Often asked: What To Say In A Letter To A Veteran? No more mr. Nice Guy. What was the life expectancy of a helicopter door gunner in Vietnam? Commissioned in 1980 as a Behavioral Science Officer and went from 0-1 to 0-6 until I retired in 2005. Thanks for your attention to this subject. In my military career, I personaly wrote CIB support letters for over 20 non-11B soldiers whom I knew had spent more than 180 days in a forward deployed posture and were under combat conditions, 6 receiving purple hearts none received the CIB. You must be a U.S. citizen or resident alien. I would like to see the source for this estimate that there are only 850,000 Vietnam Veterans still alive. Im always looking around at whats going on. I too am a Marine Vietnam Veteran; (7th Marines 67-69), with multiple diagnoses. My husband is former Marine (in Vietnam 1966-67) and diagnosed with Parkinsons, diabetes, etc. (Reuters Health) Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans health even decades after the war, according to a new study. Over the entire follow-up period, the total death rate for Vietnam veterans was 17% higher than for other veterans. These are indeed some very sobering statistics. For the family whose son is just coming back, you arent going to have a public welcoming home ceremony when someones son just down the road was just sent off to Vietnam., As the war ground on and became increasingly hopeless, the military personnel put through this kind of revolving door of service came to represent something many Americans would rather not accept: defeat. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? He was among those who got the call. The dedication of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in 1982 began the process, but many identify the Gulf War of 1990-91with its national flag-waving, yellow-ribbon cultural mobilization and the grand celebrations of a successful campaignas ending Vietnam Syndrome. Thanks for all your help for the vets. information Im used to reading about WWII and Korean War vets. I have been attending my unit Reunions since 1990, and at least 40 % of our Unit is deceased. C.I.B. In 2018, the median income of Vietnam veterans and that of non-veterans was almost equivalent: It was significantly lower for veterans, who had served their country between the ages of 63 and 78 at the time, coming in at $63,300 as opposed to the average of $65,000 for nonveterans. have served in-country was: 9,492,958. got rocketed big time because it was the start of the TET offensive. ) I am 62, and rated 100% with Agent Orange medical issues. If you have a CIB, you do not need to verify stressors, so call the 1-800-827-1000 and tolerate the voice promptings/menu. A half century after serving in Vietnam, hundreds of veterans have a new reason to believe they may be dying from a silent bullet test results show some men may have been infected by a. Veterans returning from Vietnam were met with an institutional response marked by indifference. My name is Jason Gunn and I am a veteran of OIF with the First Armor Div. Sleep well brother. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. i forgot to mention in my above comment,that i was in the first infantry division,(the big red one),charlie company,2nd battalion,16th infantry regiment,rangers,in vietnam. Garwood is sometimes identified as the last documented American prisoner of war from the Vietnam War. We returned home to an uncertain future with no skills needed in the civilian world, we would make our way the best we could in this Be safe and well Welcome Home So long ago-time tames the memories and makes them Kind!!!! Was an 11B grunt with the First Air Cav (C1/7) in 71/72. This is a question as I have not been able to find the source of 13M+ falsely claiming to be RVN vets. "I didn't think it would be me.". But the specter of Vietnam still lingers, and some of that wars veterans view such acts with a wary glance. Can I cut apples the night before for apple pie? please pardon the French. we better make it soon . I had them look at my VA narrative pointing out stressors and stressor events in the Nam. The USS Rhona was blown up with a German missile. We spent more forward deployed time than the WW2 vets, we never lost a major battle, we were greeted with the most abuse and disdain from the country we had served than any previous generation of veteran, and we were the genesis of all war-fighting doctrine today. Over time, swelling and inflammation of the bile duct can lead to cancer. They cannot deny your ISD. Do you have the form to apply? Jorge Otero Barreto. Another who is 85,from Colorado and was on the USS Rhona in Tunisia in the early stages of WWll who filed his claim at age 80 for PTSD. INTERESTING CENSUS STATISTICS. We were in the tents in the mud in 1966 /67 . It was after returning to the U.S. and while en route to the hospital that Wowwk first encountered hostility as a veteran. Subject: Fwd: ED SCHULTZNATIONAL TALK HOSTDISABLED VET DENIED JUSTICE! None of that, he says, prepared me for the reception at home upon our return.. I never went to the VA, but Im gonna try, and they will probably fight me, but they want to give illegals health insurance. so in 2190 days.from today, lucky to be a Vietnam veteran alive. This was partly due to the logistics of the never-ending conflict. "We are taking this seriously," said Curt Cashour, a spokesman with the Department of Veterans Affairs. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. We who served America do not deserve this treatment. I have a few observations, but I will let you all go first. 7,484 women (6,250 or 83.5% were nurses) served in Vietnam. what does that tell u? Thank You. Finally after 10 months found a job,human resources person said that they didnot mind hiring Vietnam Veterans .as long as I was not drug addict or involved in any war attrocities. What are Vietnam veterans dying from? one thing they have mentioned is verified stressors. Glamunyon@aol.com. 18 years old I would learn about civilian life 46 months later. and welcome home to all my brothers. You dont have parades for soldiers coming home from a war they lost.. I just wonder how many of us boots on decks guys are going to be dying off before the VA and congress realize that we are due for our agent orange exposure also. Hometown: Vega Baja, Puerto Rico. I was never a prisner but could relate to some of the tings the men talked about.I can also relate to the tinngs you talk about,, Any time Im around a crowd (large or small) I like to be where I can keep up w/everything going on around meUse to have panic attacks really bad if I had to be in publicWith help from VA mental health and medication Im now a lot better off.. 2023 A&E Television Networks, LLC. Ill never ware a baseball cap again ever! Lincoln, Nebraska is where I call home. Age: 78. Are Vietnam vets respected? 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